Curse

Evilsod · Nov 24, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Quit complaining or Quit GuildWars

A game like guildwars can never be 100% bugsafe (actually I really cant remember ANY game that hasnt been updated after a few days of release, ok maybe 'Checkers' or 'Chess'). Anyway, Guildwars is simply too big to extensively test everything. If you want a 99,99% bugfree game, you will need to wait 5 years for a game to be released.

Quit complaining or Quit GuildWars

BTW: im not sure if they Sunspear title is bugged, maybe it is meant this way. You can still achieve the max title by doing the quests, which will make it more grinding title. Anyway a title easy to achieve would be a LAME title wouldnt it? Pointing at ppl saying Lucky/unlucky/PvP titles are impossible.

Oh i'm sorry. Am i not aloud to get my moneys worth? I paid 18 quid for this, even with 40% off from play.com i still haven't come close. I can't even bring myself to replay it on my other characters or even carry on/level my Para/Dervish. Why? The grind is too f*cing boring. Having to quest to get 2500 Sunspear once is fair enough. Having to do it 10 times... not a chance.

Oh and Anet doesn't get money per month like WoW. Its in there best interest to keep people playing Guild Wars and buying new chapters. Atm, i haven't seen anything to make me buy the next installement. The grind factor is insanely high. The bug factor is also insanely high. The sheer stupidity factor is just off the chart.

I don't find grinding 25000 Sunspear points as a requirement all that fun tbh. Grinding 15000 to get a max title on ONE character i will do while achieving other things, but thanks to the stupid RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs who decided to make it impossible to do after getting Rank 8 i can't even do that.

-.- · Nov 24, 2006, 03:00 AM // 03:00

Then leave the game for a while.

Evilsod · Nov 24, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by -.-

Then leave the game for a while.

I have, i leave it afk gaining Lightbringer points for now, chatting occasionally in guild/alliance chat. Once i run out of things to do on my Ranger i'm beginning to wonder what i'll do next.

Tide to Go · Nov 24, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

An update for my last thread but ill put it in here.

outside of Tihark Orchard the wisperer gives a bounty for heckets. Ride the left wall over to Jennurs Horde to get another bounty for the harpys. (Try to avoid the harpys on your way over thier.)Then kill everything that moves in that district. I got almost 2k sunspear points in one hour after killing almost every living thing in there. This does work because I went back and sunbtracted to see how amny it got me. I did this place once and it got me to rank 8

Moleh · Nov 24, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Oh i'm sorry. Am i not aloud to get my moneys worth? I paid 18 quid for this, even with 40% off from play.com i still haven't come close. I can't even bring myself to replay it on my other characters or even carry on/level my Para/Dervish. Why? The grind is too f*cing boring. Having to quest to get 2500 Sunspear once is fair enough. Having to do it 10 times... not a chance.

Oh and Anet doesn't get money per month like WoW. Its in there best interest to keep people playing Guild Wars and buying new chapters. Atm, i haven't seen anything to make me buy the next installement. The grind factor is insanely high. The bug factor is also insanely high. The sheer stupidity factor is just off the chart.

I don't find grinding 25000 Sunspear points as a requirement all that fun tbh. Grinding 15000 to get a max title on ONE character i will do while achieving other things, but thanks to the stupid RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs who decided to make it impossible to do after getting Rank 8 i can't even do that.

Your posts have made me lol. Can you read? You did see the bit where Gaile has said that in an upcoming update you will be able to get R9 in a much easier way from R8, and that there will indeed be a use for the title?
Also, you paid £18 for a new game and your complaining? You got more armour, weapons, features, continent, classes, skills, titles etc etc etc and this one thing about having to do a small grind (lets face it, getting to 2500 is nothing, esp when your talking about getting 15000 for Spearmaster) is getting you worked up like that? I think you definately need to take a step back.
Granted its a bit of a kick in the teeth. Ive come here after grinding to R8 in arjok wood and not doing any quests only to find out Im no longer able to get to R9. Frustrating yes, but having read about the update I know Im gonna get it sooner or later.

You can level your paragon/dervish in either of the 2 other continents so they're not wasted character slots.

Calm down, sit back, be patient.

As for whoever mentioned earlier about 'god dont they have a test team to test these things?!' yes, I'd say they do. But there is no way they can test things on a scale of thousand of player. Effectively I'd say any MMO is best tested as the game goes along and you fix/tweak the minor things the public come up with (after fixing the major things in private testing ofc). If you think this is bad then I'd hate to see reactions to a game thats pre-testing!

Edit: I'd also just like to quote this...

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you have asked if it is yet possible to attain the highest Sunspear and Lightbringer ranks. In fact, there is a way to attain such ranks – creative gamers will often find even the circuitous paths – but the means being used by a few isn’t the primary way that players will achieve those ranks.

So yes, it is still possible apparently, however people just arent aware of it yet due to it being not so obvious. The path is already there, however the dev's are aware that its too hard to work out and will make it more obvious in the future. Maybe theres a challenge there for someone to work it out. Im happy to wait.

jackie · Nov 24, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

It took about about 60-90min/each to get 2500 points for my Prophecies/Canthan characters just by doing regular quests & taking blessings.

While I don't like grinding and would leave the 'must have 2500 points before one can continue' aspect out of NF, it isn't so big job to get those points.

Xunlai Master · Nov 25, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Wow they still haven't fixed sunspear title yet???

Anet will fix the sunspear title in future(also according to Gaile Grey) cos it needs to be fixed.. when i say fix, i mean allowing way to earn points after rank 8, otherwise many ppl will be stuck at r8 for ever.

Sunspear title is becoming gay cos it should have got fixed long time ago. I can understand why they stopped blessing after r8 cos otherwise it would be too easy even compared to lightbringer title;
*r9 sunspear = 15000 points, upto 7 points per kill (= 2143 kills)
r8 lightbringer = 50000 points, 2 points per kill (= 25000 kills)

However there are still no ways to earn more points after r8, and Anet still allows people to slip pass to r9 using r7 res method.

I can't understand why they haven't fixed it yet.. cos it needs to be fixed and its a easy fix. I noticed recent update removed exp gain from duplicate torment kills but u still earn extra lightbringer points. They fixed exp gain but not the lb points?

Any..way pls fix the sunspear title, its bout time..

guinevere · Nov 25, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

My guess is:
The sunspear rank is part of the missing elite mission. Missing as in: Not yet finished. Once the elite mission is finished, the title will get a mysterious bugfix which then allows you to access the mission.

there is no way of getting this title atm, friend of mine and myself tired it with letting the mobs res (only way to seem to get it) but in some weird way we both d/ced at at the same score 12k of points each... Other friend of mine also d/ced at 11k points... and that just never happend to him before a d/c without a message... Weird? I'd say yes...

I smell something with this title and being it connected with the elite mission... why else does Gail say its only gainable with the res-bug glitch and will be more 'accessable' once Anet finishes the 'elite-mission a lá SF'

Holds up finger points to Factions 'The Deep'... Anet doesnt want to hear about 'I dont wanna be in the biggest Alliance just to go on a mission-whining...'

we just d/ced about 5 mins before I posted this btw... and theres no other place atm for r8ers to gain more SSP.

Cyan The Archer · Nov 25, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

guinevere: One of my friends got it yesterday by farming. No error.

Francis Crawford · Nov 30, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

To repeat a common question in this thread:

Is there any place to get the last 7500 points via rezzed mobs EXCEPT The Desolation?

-.- · Nov 30, 2006, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Vabbi areas with Harpie monks.

Francis Crawford · Nov 30, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by -.-

Vabbi areas with Harpie monks.

It doesn't look that way on Guildwiki, EXCEPT that they don't have entries for the harpy bosses.

Is Guildwiki in error (easy to believe when it comes to Nightfall), or were you talking about the bosses?

logan90 · Nov 30, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

It doesn't look that way on Guildwiki, EXCEPT that they don't have entries for the harpy bosses.

Is Guildwiki in error (easy to believe when it comes to Nightfall), or were you talking about the bosses?

The griffons within harpy groups are monks.

buy and die · Nov 30, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Josinq_the_Whisperer

Btw the normal skree griffins dont have any rezzes.

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Ooh, thanks. It looks like his team doesn't have any enchantment stripping. I can farm that.

The touch range on the rez, however, leaves me with little hope I can set up my team to do the farming while being sure never to actually kill him personally.

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

It also seems from Guildwiki that Roaring Ethers have rez sigs.

Oh. That's not reusable. Whoops.

Besides, who wants to farm where the mesmer is the one that has to be kept alive ...

Antheus · Dec 01, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

I have, i leave it afk gaining Lightbringer points for now, chatting occasionally in guild/alliance chat. Once i run out of things to do on my Ranger i'm beginning to wonder what i'll do next.

Why are you grinding using an exploit, in a game you hate, to play content that's boring and you do not wish to replay, in series you won't buy another chapter of?

I'd understand if you wanted to do high-end chest running or something, but why bother investing into something you hate with passion, even if afk?

Lucielle · Dec 01, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Anyone know if the new patch that made cloned Chaos mobs not give lightbringer points also make Resed mobs not give sunspear points?

maraxusofk · Dec 01, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

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Originally Posted by Xunlai Master

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i just hope anet will allow us to max the sunspear title with something reasonable so ppl can get em if they want to.
there r enough impossible titles alrdy.. (pvp ones, allegiance, lucky/unlucky, etc) /cough

just saying but titles are supposed to be hard. whats the point of them if everyone ahs them? u dont even bother looking at lvl 7 sunspear cuz everyone has it. the point is, u wouldnt want the title if it was easy to get cuz everyone would have it

Francis Crawford · Dec 01, 2006, 08:41 AM // 08:41

The Protector of Tyria/Cantha/Elona titles seem pretty straightforward to get, if one cares.

Cartographer is a labor of love, of course.

Elite skills appeals to me.

That said, I have 52 elite skills, enough experience to get that up to 130 (counting the bonus XP from the caps), and a little under 70% on my best map. And I only ever actually finished Prophecies. So I probably shouldn't be giving the impression I find ANY of this easy at all.